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-The Weber Thesis #+Can you learn to hear God? #
  
-## The Weber Thesis ##+## Can you learn to hear God? ##
  
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-April 22015+April 62016
  
 Available at http://anthro.rschram.org/2667/5 Available at http://anthro.rschram.org/2667/5
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 ### Readings ### ### Readings ###
  
-HaynesNaomi2012. “Pentecostalism and the Morality of MoneyProsperity, Inequality, and Religious Sociality on the Zambian Copperbelt.” Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute 18 (1): 12339. doi:10.1111/j.14679655.2011.01734.x.+LuhrmannTanya M2004. “MetakinesisHow God Becomes Intimate in Contemporary U.S. Christianity.” American Anthropologist 106 (3): 51828. doi:10.1525/aa.2004.106.3.518. 
 + 
 +Deren, Maya, Cherel Ito, and Teiji Ito. ca. 19471954Divine Horsemen: The Living Gods of HaitiDocumentaryhttp://youtu.be/2YIO_dxyJio?t=1m27s. 
  
-Robbins, J. 1998. “Becoming Sinners: Christianity and Desire among the Urapmin of Papua New Guinea.” Ethnology 37 (4): 299–316. doi:10.2307/3773784. 
  
 ### Recommended readings ### ### Recommended readings ###
  
-RobbinsJoel2001“God Is Nothing but Talk: ModernityLanguageand Prayer in a Papua New Guinea Society.” American Anthropologist, New Series, 103 (4)901–12.+JamesWilliam1984William JamesThe Essential Writings. Bruce WilshireedAlbanySUNY Press.
  
-CannellFenella2005The Christianity of Anthropology*.” Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute 11 (2)335–56doi:10.1111/j.1467–9655.2005.00239.x.+JamesWilliam1994 [1902]. The Varieties of Religious ExperienceA Study in Human NatureNew YorkModern Library.
  
 +Luhrmann, T. M., Howard Nusbaum, and Ronald Thisted. 2010. “The Absorption Hypothesis: Learning to Hear God in Evangelical Christianity.” American Anthropologist 112 (1): 66–78. doi:10.1111/j.1548-1433.2009.01197.x.
  
-### Other media ###+## What do the Twelve Tribes' neighbors think about them? 
  
-DuBois, Bastien. 2013. "Cargo Cult" (Trailer). https://vimeo.com/62094392.+What do the neighbors of Peppercorn Farm in Picton think about the Twelve Tribes?
  
-## Weber's four types of religion ##+Hint: They don't think "nothing."
  
-* **Other-worldly mysticism**: Dissociation, trance, ecstasy, loss of ego.  +## Is there any truth to religion and religious belief? ##
-* **Worldly mysticism**: Contemplation, healing, gnosis (wisdom), discovery of the secret order of the world.  +
-* **Other-worldly asceticism**: Renunciation or abandonment, Buddhism, Christian hermits, Hindu sannyasin. +
-* **Worldly asceticism**: Self-discipline or control, Calvinism. +
  
-These are **ideal types** and as such no real religions fit perfectly in any of these+a) A potentially explosive issue. It almost sounds as though this is 
 +asking which religion is right.
  
-A question for this week is where do you put Pentecostalism, and why? +b) More generally though I want to ask are there any grounds on which 
 +one can believe in something unseen and unproven.
  
-## A persisting question ##+c) We've ducked the issue.  
 +## A velvet rope
  
-We understand that Durkheim and Weber complement each other, but we are still stuck with a nagging questionAren't some religions more appropriately understood from the point of view of an individual? What, in general, is the relationship between the individual side of religious belief and practice and the social or collective side? +{{ :2667:1222487.jpg |Still from "Lost Our Lisa." The Simpsons (1998).}}
  
-## Individualism and society ## 
  
-I want to take as given that some societies exhibit individualism as a chief value. Relationships and groups are ideally based on choice. People create their own paths in life. +## The limits of social science ##
  
-By contrast other societies exhibit a different orientation. Societies based on all-encompassing social institutions such as kinship structure and hereditary leadershipfor instancetend to place obligations to the group over individual choice+Social scientific approaches to religion can only look at concreteobservableempirical facts about people's behavior
  
-This does not mean that some societies are more free or have looser structures, or that other societies are more oppressive. Each type of society is based on different values. None are necessarily more or less oppressive+This means that social scientific explanations are always on the outside looking in
  
-## The rationality of salvation ##+It also means that social scientific explanations assume that, being from an outsider's position, they possess a unique claim to being true. The **observed** has beliefs, rituals, etc. The **observers** don't. 
  
-The Weber thesis is that the development of an ascetic form of +In other words, we are looking at religion as culture
-Protestant Christianity spurred the development of market exchange and +
-capitalist production. This is presented in his famous book //The +
-Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism// (1905).+
  
-## The Protestant Ethic ##+## William James ##
  
-Calvin teaches that salvation is for the electThere's nothing you + * James is a philosopher interested in the nature of human 
-can do to earn salvation.+   experience. As such, he is (more or less) to psychology what 
 +   Durkheim is to anthropology. It is interesting to note that they 
 +   were active at about the same time.  
 + * James is also a leading figure within the intellectual movement 
 +   called PragmatismPragmatism is an argument that every idea needs 
 +   to be proven by evidence, and that real knowledge comes directly 
 +   from evidence, facts and the sense 
 + * What do you suppose Pragmatists thought about religion? 
  
-What you do with your life has nothing to do with your relationship to +## What is happening in this religious event? ## 
-God.+
  
-If you were successfulit was **sign** that you were in the +A clip from the *The Divine Horsemen: Living Gods of Haiti*, a film by Maya Deren et al
-elect. Wealth is not valuable for its own sake.+
  
-A person should follow one's "calling" as a duty to God.+https://youtu.be/2YIO_dxyJio?t=6m59s
  
-The **means** of earning living (a calling) are separate from the **ends** +The beginning of ritual welcoming and honoring a *lwanamed Papa Legba. Pay attention to the man wearing handkerchief around his head.
-(living, wealth and success). Thus if one is wealthy, one can be +
-deatched from this wealth and deal with objectively.+
  
-## The disenchantment of the world ##+## A sidebar on research questions ##
  
-Protestant reformers condemned people for being consumed with +Many people including Deren have conducted research on the topic of Vodou possession in rural Haiti and the people who practice Vodou rites of possession
-worldliness: being greedy and venal. Greed is bad+
  
-Because their philosophy was based on a new way of thinking of the +What questions do you want to ask about this topic? 
-person as an individual, they actually paved the way for disembedding +
-the economy from social relationships.+
  
-More generally, Weber claims that the Protestant calling paved the way for greater institutional specialization, like the separation of society and economy, of politics and religion. People are no longer defined by what they do. Who they are in essence is distinct from their livelihood and their practical circumstances. So you can be rich and still be a good, moral person. You can order evictions, but still be a decent individual+Write some down now
  
-Also, this new kind of 'worldly asceticism' led to people splitting off supernatural forces from the material world. This is also called the disenchantment of the world. If you believe in God or angels, that's a personal matter. All other secular social institutions are now based on the assumption that there is no magic in the world. +## Asking questions ##
  
-This is also generally speaking what Weber means by rationalization. He does not mean that religious thought is irrational, but that certain kinds of religious ethics have led to a more rational (formalized and specialized) organization of social life. +Aristotle had some advice for his students about asking questions: 
  
-## Analysis and interpretation ##+> Not every problem, nor every thesis, should be examined, but only one which might puzzle one of those who need argument, not punishment or perception. For people who are puzzled to know whether one ought to honour the gods and love one’s parents or not need punishment, while those who are puzzled to know whether snow is white or not need perception. The subjects should not border too closely upon the sphere of demonstration, nor yet be too far removed from it; for the former cases admit of no doubt, while the latter involve difficulties too great for the art of the trainer. (Aristotle, Topics, Book I, Part 11)
  
-*Erklaren*: Analysis. Identifying which facts belong to which ideal categories. 
  
-*Verstehen*: Understanding. Putting the pieces back together to understand how something looks from the individual's point of view.+Take a minute to think about this passage and try to get down the main idea here in your own, more contemporary language
  
-Weber is never simply labeling or defining things. He also wants to draw out a more general story or interpretive understanding of society as a process.+## The three types of questions ##
  
 +Aristotle says there are three types of questions. Let's come up with examples of each kind. 
  
 +* Type I: Factual questions
 +* Type II: Belief questions
 +* Type III: Research questions, or *why* questions
  
-## Pentecostalism ## +## Do I know what rhetorical means?? Do I know what rhetorical means!?? ##
  
-### Origins ###+A question someone might want to ask is this:  
 + 
 +> How does Vodou possession help people to resist cultural domination?  
 + 
 +Another one could be:  
 + 
 +> How does Vodou help people adapt to the modernization of Haiti?  
 + 
 +Are these questions "research questions"? 
 + 
 + 
 +## There are many varieties of religious experience ## 
 + 
 +* Healthy-mindedness: You feel as though part of you is good, and 
 +  through your own actions and behavior you can cultivate goodness in 
 +  yourself and the world.  
 +* The sick soul. You see the world as a war between Good and 
 +  Evil. Everyone, including yourself, need to be saved from inherent 
 +  evils. 
 +* Conversion. You feel incomplete and imperfect, and so feel like you 
 +  need to seek change. 
 +* Mysticism. You feel like you have an intuitive knowledge about the 
 +  world from experience. You have a wisdom which you feel, but cannot 
 +  put into words. 
 + 
 +## God is real ## 
 + 
 +"God is real because he produces real effects" (1985 [1902]: 517).  
 + 
 +## The origins of Pentecostalism ##
  
 The Asuza Street Revival, led by William Seymour, 1906-1909:  The Asuza Street Revival, led by William Seymour, 1906-1909: 
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-### How it differs from other holiness churches ###+## How Pentecostalism differs from other holiness churches ##
  
 * The receipt of Pentecost, or a baptism of the Spirit. * The receipt of Pentecost, or a baptism of the Spirit.
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   early on.   early on.
  
-### The global movement ###+## The global movement of Pentecostalism ##
  
 * Spreads through grass-roots networks.  * Spreads through grass-roots networks. 
 * Paradoxically both world-making and world-breaking (Robbins 2004). * Paradoxically both world-making and world-breaking (Robbins 2004).
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- 
-## Christianity across cultures ## 
- 
-Do Christian converts adopt a new culture when they convert to a foreign religion?  
- 
-Is Christianity inherently individualistic because of its basis in 'faith'? Is this what Weber meant by rationalization.  
  
  
 ## References ## ## References ##
  
-Robbins, Joel. 2004. “The Globalization of Pentecostal and Charismatic Christianity.” Annual Review of Anthropology 33 (1): 117–43. doi:10.1146/annurev.anthro.32.061002.093421. 
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-Synan, Vinson. 1997. The Holiness-Pentecostal Tradition: Charismatic 
-Movements in the Twentieth Century. Grand Rapids, Mich.: 
-Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing. 
  
 +James, William. 1984. William James, The Essential Writings. Bruce Wilshire, ed. Albany: SUNY Press.
  
 +James, William. 1985 [1902]. The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.
  
 +Robbins, Joel. 2004. “The Globalization of Pentecostal and Charismatic Christianity.” Annual Review of Anthropology 33: 117–43.
  
 +Synan, Vinson. 1997. The Holiness-Pentecostal Tradition: Charismatic Movements in the Twentieth Century. Grand Rapids, Mich.: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing.
  
  
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