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 ryan.schram@sydney.edu.au ryan.schram@sydney.edu.au
  
-March 262015+March 292017
  
 +Available at http://anthro.rschram.org/2667/4
  
 ### Readings ### ### Readings ###
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 Palmer, Susan J. 2010. “The Twelve Tribes: Preparing the Bride for Yahshua’s Return.” Nova Religio: The Journal of Alternative and Emergent Religions 13 (3): 59–80. doi:10.1525/nr.2010.13.3.59. Palmer, Susan J. 2010. “The Twelve Tribes: Preparing the Bride for Yahshua’s Return.” Nova Religio: The Journal of Alternative and Emergent Religions 13 (3): 59–80. doi:10.1525/nr.2010.13.3.59.
  
-### Recommended reading ###+### Other readings ###
  
 Bell, Catherine. 2009. Ritual: Perspectives and Dimensions--Revised Edition. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Bell, Catherine. 2009. Ritual: Perspectives and Dimensions--Revised Edition. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
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 ### Other media ### ### Other media ###
 +
 +Speigel, Alix. 2011. “Why Cleaned Wastewater Stays Dirty In Our Minds.” Morning Edition. National Public Radio. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/16/139642271/why-cleaned-wastewater-stays-dirty-in-our-minds.
  
 “The Twelve Tribes: The Official Website of the Twelve Tribes Communities.” 2013. http://twelvetribes.org/. Accessed 2 February 2015.  “The Twelve Tribes: The Official Website of the Twelve Tribes Communities.” 2013. http://twelvetribes.org/. Accessed 2 February 2015. 
  
 [[:twelve_tribes|More information on the Twelve Tribes.]] [[:twelve_tribes|More information on the Twelve Tribes.]]
-## Durkheim and Weber, two daimons on my shoulders ##  
  
-I like to think of Emile Durkheim and Max Weber as two little [[http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/apology.html|daimon]]s who sit on each of my shoulders, each whispering different things in 
-my ears. 
  
-* Durkheim looks at society as a totality. 
  
-* Weber looks at society as something that develops out individual +## Recycled water 
-patterns of action.+ 
 +Why did the cave story change people's minds?  
 + 
 +Speigel, Alix2011. “Why Cleaned Wastewater Stays Dirty In Our Minds.” Morning Edition. National Public Radio. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/16/139642271/why-cleaned-wastewater-stays-dirty-in-our-minds. 
 + 
  
-* Durkheim says that patterns of action are social facts. That is why 
-they matter. 
  
-* Weber says that social patterns and institutions form because social actions have a meaning to the 
-actor and to the society at large. Social institutions and structures are particualr ways of embodying all the things that people in society value.  
  
 ## Types of social action ##  ## Types of social action ## 
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 * Affective: Emotionally motivated action, personally meaningful * Affective: Emotionally motivated action, personally meaningful
   action.    action. 
-* Value-rational: The pursuit of a collective good or goal.  +* Value-rational (*Wertrational*): The pursuit of a collective good or goal.  
-* Instrumentally rational: Getting the best deal. Means-ends calculation.+* Instrumentally rational (*Zweckrational*): Getting the best deal. Means-ends calculation.
  
 For Weber some actions, and some societies, are more rational than others. This is how Ortner looks at avoidance of pollution. It is a "rational" way of acting. It is an effort to make sense of the world and one's place in it. For Weberians, religion in general is a very important and very special type of social action.  For Weber some actions, and some societies, are more rational than others. This is how Ortner looks at avoidance of pollution. It is a "rational" way of acting. It is an effort to make sense of the world and one's place in it. For Weberians, religion in general is a very important and very special type of social action. 
  
 +## Quiz: What types of social action best describe these activities? ##
  
 +* Brushing your teeth
 +* Waiting for the train on the platform
 +* Waiting for people to get off before you get on
 +* Helping a woman with a stroller get on the train
 +* Buying a friend a coffee as a "treat"
 +* Signing a petition to end offshore detention
 +* Donating money to the Salvation Army for Cyclone Winston
 +* Buying ramen noodles on campus and heating them up in the Learning Hub
 +
 +Talk to each other about the best Weberian types of social action to classify these activities. Do you agree? 
 +
 +## What is our analysis of these activities? ##
 +
 +Was it clear which Weberian type applied to which action? Why or why not? 
 +
 +How would you classify these actions? 
 +
 +* Praying in a church
 +* Sacrificing a pig 
 +* Baptizing an adult
 +* Handing out religious literature on a street corner
 +* Meditating 
 +* Avoiding contact with alcohol or another prohibited, 'dirty' substance. 
 +
 +In other words, if religion is social, and religious activities are also social actions, what kind of social action are they? 
 +
 +Are all religious activities motivated by the same kinds of social meanings? 
 +
 +Do all religious forms, institutions or belief systems reflect the same social values? 
 +
 +## Durkheim and Weber, two daimons on my shoulders ## 
 +
 +I like to think of Emile Durkheim and Max Weber as two little [[http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/apology.html|daimon]]s who sit on each of my shoulders, each whispering different things in
 +my ears.
 +
 +* Durkheim looks at society as a totality.
 +
 +* Weber looks at society as something that develops out individual
 +patterns of action.
 +
 +* Durkheim says that patterns of action are social facts. That is why
 +they matter.
 +
 +* Weber says that social patterns and institutions form because social actions have a meaning to the
 +actor and to the society at large. Social institutions and structures are particualr ways of embodying all the things that people in society value. 
  
  
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 ## A table of four types of religion ## ## A table of four types of religion ##
  
-^               ^ mystical          ^ ascetic ^ +{{ :2667:ideal_types_of_religion.png Four ideal types of ethical religions }}
-| this-worldly  | Improve the world | Control the world, starting with yourself. | +
-| other-worldly | Abandon the world | Renounce the world. | +
  
 (after Bell 2009: 178 and Weber 1946 [1915]: 325)  (after Bell 2009: 178 and Weber 1946 [1915]: 325) 
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